| Mon, Jan 23 2012 04:14pm EST 1 |

3keys2myheart
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Help! I can't get my 8 mth old to stay asleep in her crib, her naps
in there will only last 30-45 min and then she is just nasty. She
will only go two hrs at night and then needs to be moved to get
sleep. She doesn't lay on me and I do not brig her in my bed. She
will sleep through the night in my room in this sleep and play
thing that she is getting too big for and I think the reason she
sleeps in there is because she likes her back and not her belly and
because it kind of cradles her and I think she likes that feeling.
I'm at a loss of what to do, she just got up from only a 30 min nap
and will be grumpy till bed time. I am not one for the cry out
method either.
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| Mon, Jan 23 2012 09:44pm EST 2 |

SMJMmom
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Do you run a white noise machine or humidifier in her room? This
always helped keep my kids asleep because they didn't hear every
little noise in the house. Maybe that would help.
It is so frustrating when a baby won't sleep! I tried a few
different things with my daughter when she was giving us a run
for my money, but nothing worked as good and as quickly as the
"cry it out" method. I know you are not a fan, but all it took
was two nights of just letting her be in her crib until she fell
asleep. She cried on and off for about 1/2 an hour, tops. I found
that when I would try to coax any of my kids into sleep before
putting them down, they would just wake up minutes after being in
their crib, angry.
Luckily, my 1 year old has always been good with naps, so I can't
help you there. Good luck!
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| Mon, Jan 23 2012 10:22pm EST 3 |

FrugalGail
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My oldest would not sleep in a crib. He would scream all night long
and make himself throw up. So we switched to cosleeping and
everyone got a good nights sleep from then on.
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| Mon, Jan 23 2012 10:39pm EST 4 |

extrablessedmom
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Our first wouldn't sleep in her crib around the same time. She woke
up more than she slept. We finally put her on a mattress on the
floor in her room (after we completely baby proofed everything in
there).
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| Tue, Jan 24 2012 11:28am EST 5 |

30momE&S
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Have you tried moving the sleep-play-thing into the baby's room? It
might help her get used to being in her room.
My 10-month old won't nap in her crib or peacefully play in it
either. Last time she was trapped during the day in her crib, she
threw up. She does fairly well sleeping from 1AM-8AM in her crib,
although there is some complaining when I put her in. I remember
her older sister would wake up happy, read her board books, even
though she didn't nap in the crib either until she was over 12
months. We do a little bit of co-sleeping in the mornings and for
naptime.
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| Tue, Jan 24 2012 11:42am EST 6 |

3keys2myheart
331 Posts
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I have used a sound machine since she was an infant so the noise of
the boys playing and other things hopefully don't wake her, but
they still do lol. I can get her to go till midnight in her crib
and then I'll repeat the put down three or four times and she
instantly wakes up, so that's when I transfer her to my room. She
likes to stay on her side but rolls in the crib and I'm pretty sure
that's what wakes her. I borrowed a video monitor from my sister
till I buy one myself to see if that's what the problem is. I just
got her to sleep for her morning nap and she falls asleep in my
arms on her belly do I finally got the out down right on the belly
in the crib and I am giving that a shot today. She normally hates
her belly but I figured she falls asleep on it, and hey I'm running
out of ideas here lol.
My sister had trouble with her baby last year and put her
mattress on the floor too.
Crying it out is the last thing I want to do, I let her cry ten
min and it wasn't getting better and I'd rather have one baby up
then all three kids of she woke them. I was looking into two
books, the baby sleep solution and the no cry it out solution.
Has anyone read these or have something they do reccomend?
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| Tue, Jan 24 2012 10:34pm EST 7 |

30momE&S
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I just wanted to throw out two more things, that might help with
cry-it-out. My older girl ( 3 1/2 years) rarely (or never) gets
woken up by her screaming younger sister. They go to bed at
different times (preschooler 9:30; baby 12:30).
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| Tue, Jan 24 2012 11:18pm EST 8 |

3keys2myheart
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30mom--thank you for the extra advice with waking the siblings. My
boys and her usually go to bed around the sane time, between
8/8:30. Tonight she went down first though and I made sure she was
asleep before the boys went to bed, so far she got up an hr later
and I had to put her to sleep again and then two hrs later and I
just had to give her her binky. I am so tired by 11 lol and your
little one goes to bed at 12, you must be tired!! :)
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| Thu, Jan 26 2012 01:03pm EST 9 |

3keys2myheart
331 Posts
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Ahhh!!!!! I can't do it, she just won't sleep! I've tried waiting
20 min before putting her down when she is completely passed out
and she's back up again. I have been trying her morning nap since
11 and it's already 1 in the afternoon! I have an overtired
miserable baby, I got her to sleep twice and she woke up within two
min of being in her crib, I tried letting her cry for 20 min and
that did nothing but make matters worse, I made her a bottle and
thought yes shes finally out, and she's up again. I feel helpless
and at the same time I have two other kids to take care of and this
is really really getting me upset.
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| Thu, Jan 26 2012 10:59pm EST 10 |

RollyPolliesofWNY
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I honestly JUST went through this with my 8 month old. He would
stay asleep once he was in there, but I felt like I was putting him
to bed for 2-3 hours because he'd wake every time I put him down.
Last week I let him cry (I knew he wasnt hungry, wet, in pain or
anything else, he just wanted me to hold him:()and he fell asleep
after crying for 21 minutes, heartbreaking minutes. The next night
it was 15, the 3rd night it was 20 minutes, and then the 4th night
it was less than 4 minutes, the 5th night less than a minute and
now not at all. Surprisingly he didn't wake my sleeping 2 1/2 year
old at all. That was a huge concern of mine too. I'm not a fan of
letting them cry. I actually lean a bit towards attachment
patenting in many aspects, but for some reason with Silas i knew
this was what would work. I wouldn't do it before they have object
permanence. Every mom and every child is different but it worked
for him :) He was previously in our room (not our bed) until he was
7 months old. We use white noise, I'm a huge fan if that. Funny you
say that you waited 20 minutes... I always felt that the longer I
waited the harder it was. I had better luck moving him right away
:) Hang in there. I know how tiring it is. You'll figure it out!
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| Fri, Jan 27 2012 09:53am EST 11 |

3keys2myheart
331 Posts
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Rollypollies--thanks for the advice! I go back and forth with the
crying thing, it didn't work for her nap yesterday, she actually
got up played and stayed up till 3 and then I finally got her down
but only for an hour, then she actually was pretty happy till
bedtime, the whole 20 min thing I tried for a few nights because I
read it online as a method where your child is into a deeper sleep
and won't feel you put them down as easily as when they first fall
asleep. I know I could just always give the crying it out a shot
tonight, but what about naps? That's what really drives me crazy
because I can't leave the boys unattended while I'm upstairs trying
to get her to sleep twice a day everyday, do you have to get the
crying thing down at night first and then it makes naps easier??
How does that part work?
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| Fri, Jan 27 2012 10:06am EST 12 |

Chris093
335 Posts
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I don't have advice, but I can tell you that you aren't alone! Both
of my kids did this. We put some serious time and stress into the
cry it out thing and it did not work for either of my children. I
know it works for a lot of people though. I told myself that if we
had a third child, I would just accept that they wouldn't sleep
well until the age of 2 and even then, I wouldn't be able to have
it consistantly until the age of three. I think my main thought
process in that sad statement would be to reduce my own stress. Me
being upset and stressed by the baby not sleeping didn't help
things. Of course, when you are sleep deprived, staying calm and
relaxed about it all seems impossible. That's one of the reasons we
aren't having a third.
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| Fri, Jan 27 2012 03:48pm EST 13 |

RollyPolliesofWNY
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Well, I had been nursing Silas to sleep for nap (it is so hard to
nurse him for 20 minutes each time during the day while my 2 1/2
year has all access to the whole house!)
I don't totally have the nap situation figured out quite yet as
he sometimes still falls asleep nursing and I manage to get him
in the crib asleep :). Night was much harder transferring him to
bed. Today I nursed him and put him In awake, he cried for 2
minutes... And I thought it worked. But... He pooped and didn't
nap at all :)
Having night time figured out is blissful though :) and he is
happier for it too, I feel like it wasn't good for him to be so
overtired and getting less sleep. Though I have to say, even a
month ago if someone had told me to let him cry I would have said
"oh, huh" and thought that wasn't for me. If he had been
hysterical or if the crying lasted more than 25 minutes, it would
have been my first and last attempt.
Not saying you should, you may not ever need to. But, as a person
who never thought I'd try it, I'm glad I did because it was the
right choice for Silas. Finding it is still all trial and error,
still, even with #2! Good luck!
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| Fri, Jan 27 2012 05:17pm EST 14 |

SMJMmom
550 Posts
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The "Cry-it-out" thing doesn't work for some kids. But don't give
up! The worst thing you can do after putting the baby down is
peeking in at her or going in to try and settle her. It will only
make matters worse and she will know that if she cries long enough,
you will come in. Be strong. It really is hard to hear your baby
cry and know you could just go in there to stop it, but the second
you go in there you are starting over.
Also, I found that when I put my kids to bed after they fell
asleep on me, it was certain doom. They would stir, expecting to
still be in my arms, and I think it just ticked them off that I
tricked them! Ha! I go through a whole routine- bath, bottle,
relaxing time. Then I put my baby to bed awake. They all pitched
a fit at first, but after a few tries, it worked. I did this with
all three of my kids.
Good luck! Somehow, we get through it. Sleep deprived or
otherwise!
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| Tue, Jan 31 2012 09:51pm EST 15 |

3keys2myheart
331 Posts
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Ok help please, I gave in and attempted the cry it out
method, it was heart wrenching and I wanted to cry
myself! If it went 30 min I was done, she went on and off
for 26 min and is out..... Now what happens if she wakes
up again?? In a couple hrs or in the wee hrs of the
morning?? I posted this on the welcome page too.
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| Tue, Jan 31 2012 10:11pm EST 16 |

RollyPolliesofWNY
257 Posts
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Get her right away if she wakes :) I get him. Silas wakes once
usually to eat and goes back to sleep. I'd concentrate on just
bedtime at first. He is now doing naps just fine, didn't even cry
when I put him down awake :)
:( Sad for you. Its a crappy feeling.
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| Tue, Jan 31 2012 10:37pm EST 17 |

3keys2myheart
331 Posts
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Ok so if she wakes get her and put her back to sleep and then back
in the crib? Don't make her cry again? Sometimes she does wake for
a bottle, so I could feed her, and then get her to sleep again and
back in crib till she gets used to the whole bedtime routine,
correct? Ugh I already know naps are going to be hard! Thanks
again!
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| Tue, Jan 31 2012 11:05pm EST 18 |

RollyPolliesofWNY
257 Posts
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That's what I did. It only took 4 days for us and now I can put him
down the same way each time (i sing the same song everytime before
putting him down) and he may let out a whimper for a second, but
then by the time I close the door he is fine at night, during the
night and nap. Personally I couldn't have let him cry multiple
times per night. Maybe someone has other advice?
How often does she usually wake? Go with what you feel will
work for her. Good luck tonight.
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| Tue, Jan 31 2012 11:09pm EST 19 |

SMJMmom
550 Posts
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We did it a little different. We would just go in her room, tuck
her back in and rub her back a minute, and leave. I was afraid that
if we brought her back out of her room she would know that when she
cries, we will get her. That's what worked for us in a few days.
But every baby is different, so find what works for you! And also,
at 8 months old, she might not need a feeding this late at night
anymore, so if she wakes up don't feel like you have to feed her.
Good luck!!!
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| Tue, Jan 31 2012 11:11pm EST 20 |

SMJMmom
550 Posts
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I should add that at first when we would leave her room it was like
starting all over- she would cry for about 20 minutes. We just left
her be since we knew from earlier that she could settle herself in.
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| Wed, Feb 1 2012 04:26am EST 21 |

3keys2myheart
331 Posts
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She normally would go till 7 without another bottle but lately she
has been waking around five for one, that bottle and her night
bottle are the only ones she will drink the whole thing of. All day
long it's three ounces here and there, I don't know why she's
changed up her eating habits, but I was thinking of weaning her off
the 5am bottle, lower the ounces down etc. I am on the fence, don't
want her to cry at 5 or almost 5am and also don't want to mess
things up by going in there. Well I'll know by trial and error I
suppose! Thanks ladies for all the advice! Will post tomorrow on
how the night went.
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| Wed, Feb 1 2012 08:41am EST 22 |

3keys2myheart
331 Posts
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So she didn't wake untill 4:30am and I fed her a bottle and put her
back in her crib not completely asleep and she put herself to sleep
with just moving around a little and her binkie, but no crying :).
She was out by 4:45 or so and slept untill 8 this morning and is
happy! I am going to try and get her to eat more during the day and
maybe a bigger bottle before bed a d maybe soon that early morning
feeding won't exist anymore. Now the hard part comes, nap time!!!!
I am dreading that one! Well seeing a couple of hours how that
goes!
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| Wed, Feb 1 2012 10:34am EST 23 |

RollyPolliesofWNY
257 Posts
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:) good! I was wondering how it went! Good luck with nap, hope it
goes well. The first night is the hardest,. I am also planning to
feed Silas a ton all day so he will skip the night feeding :) That
worked with my older guy.
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| Wed, Feb 1 2012 11:39am EST 24 |

3keys2myheart
331 Posts
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Yeah, this morning nap went awesome!! She was showing that she was
tired at 9:45 do I layer her in her crib awake with her binkie and
her blanket and only once ten minutes later she whined for about
two seconds and then was out. She slept untill 11:30!! Awesome
nap!! I'm so excited! :)
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| Wed, Feb 1 2012 11:46am EST 25 |

RollyPolliesofWNY
257 Posts
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Horray!
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