| Sat, Mar 24 2012 10:06pm EDT 1 |

meetwo
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I just got wind of this article regarding a women in the European
Parliment. It happened in the Fall of 2010. Can you imagine a one
year maternity leave? I would have loved that!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/24/licia-ronzulli-baby-parliament
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| Sat, Mar 24 2012 10:09pm EDT 2 |

FrugalGail
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Would you be willing to pay taxes at the rate they do? I would not.
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| Sat, Mar 24 2012 10:17pm EDT 3 |

meetwo
20 Posts
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No, just dreaming about different maternity leave rules : )
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| Sat, Mar 24 2012 10:26pm EDT 4 |

RollyPolliesofWNY
257 Posts
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I think it would be amazing. A lesson we could learn from many
European countries, and Canada. 6 weeks maternity leave is just so
sad. I've been lucky enough to be able to bring my children to work
with me, another opportunity I think more parents should have.
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| Sun, Mar 25 2012 10:06am EDT 5 |

ERkat
140 Posts
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I think one year of maternity/paternity leave would be awesome too!
A friend of mine who is Canadian told me that they receive 6 months
of paid leave and 6 months unpaid...so much more family friendly.
Fortunately, I am able to stay home with my children now. With the
first one I had to go right back to work and I regretted it.
Gail, the taxes would be a killer, but I do wonder if the
difference in quality of life would change our perspective?
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| Sun, Mar 25 2012 02:36pm EDT 6 |

Sharlock
137 Posts
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I wouldn't want to pay the sort of taxes they pay. My friend use to
live in Canada and left to become a U.S. citizen because 51% of his
pay was being taken to pay his taxes. I believe you can take more
unpaid time off with the Family Leave Act in the United States
(save up 6 months salary and live off that instead of a lifetime of
high Canadian taxes). I stayed at home with my children as long as
I could before heading back to work on a steady basis.
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| Sun, Mar 25 2012 07:47pm EDT 7 |

FrugalGail
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Gail, the taxes would be a killer, but I do wonder if the
difference in quality of life would change our perspective?
I think that if you want to ensure a good quality of life, you
have to provide it for yourself. I believe in saving up for the
things you want. If you want to take a year off after having a
baby, save up for it.
There are only three ways you can fund an extended maternity
leave. Pay for it yourself by saving, legislate that employers
must pay for it (which would put many out of business), or make
the tax payers pay for it by raising taxes. I do not believe that
taxpayers should be forced to pay for other people's life
choices. The person who has no children should not be forced to
fund two years of paid leave for the women who wants to have four
children.
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| Mon, Mar 26 2012 12:53pm EDT 8 |

Allymom
33 Posts
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Gail, coming from Europe I can tell you that - at least in Germany
- Moms do NOT get paid for the entire year. The extended maternity
leave just leaves the opportunity open for you to return to work
and still have a job after a year (it used to be up to three
years). Here, you either take your leave or quit - and there is no
saving up for that, as it will be rough to find a new job let's say
after a year, especially in this economy. So it's not as easy as
you make it seem. I do not mind at all paying for the working Moms
who will eventually return to their work. It's the welfare abusers
I have issues with.
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| Mon, Mar 26 2012 01:14pm EDT 9 |

FrugalGail
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Gail, coming from Europe I can tell you that - at least in
Germany - Moms do NOT get paid for the entire year.... So it's
not as easy as you make it seem.
I never said that they get paid for an entire year.
And in the "two years" example I gave above I was responding to the
poster who said that in Canada they get six months. (4 kids = 2
years)
I also don't think I made anything seem easy. Saving up for what
you want in life is not easy. Demonstrating personal responsibility
is not easy. If it were, we wouldn't have so many citizens
dependent on entitlement programs.
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| Tue, Apr 3 2012 09:52pm EDT 10 |

meetwo
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I would like to see more jobs/careers support maternity or child
care leave for up to 2 years, regardless of payment to the mother
(or father if it is paternity leave). My friend was lucky enough to
keep her job (unpaid beyond 6 weeks) while she was on leave for 2
years. And they did plan ahead (having one car during those years
was on sacrifice) and lived frugally. They are an inspiration and
she had the right job to support her decision.
http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/benefits-leave/fmla.htm
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| Wed, Apr 4 2012 08:48pm EDT 11 |

mamafrita
75 Posts
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of all the countries i know the US has the worst
maternity/paternity leave. i am very grateful that my dh can
provide for me to stay home with my baby. i wasn't raised here and
seeing my pregnant coworkers working till their due date, and going
back to work leaving a 8 week old in day care is shocking to me.
back home you take time before having the baby, you relax, you
enjoy your pregnancy, then you stay home with your baby for at
least 6 months.
i understand that here things are different, and if this works
for other people i'm happy for them. it is just something that i
couldn't do and that is why i waited to have kids when we could
do things the way it works for our family.
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| Fri, Apr 6 2012 12:45am EDT 12 |

meetwo
20 Posts
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Lucky mom! So happy for you : ) that you could do what you felt was
best for the children.
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| Thu, Apr 12 2012 03:55am EDT 13 |

nicoleannB
4 Posts
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I'm not willing.
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| Thu, Apr 12 2012 04:14pm EDT 14 |

Campingisfun
23 Posts
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I was a mom who had to go back after 8 weeks. I do wish I had more
time, but health care is what the issue was for us. After 12 weeks,
we would have had to use cobra and my husband's insurance is so bad
that it was not worth paying into his to take more leave...coupled
with the fact that I would have been unpaid as well. We saved the
best we could. I do not regret the daycare decision in the end. It
was a fact of life and one that we had to deal with. I do think
that after a certain length of time off, you do owe your employer
either your resignation (so he/she can hire someone) or coming back
to work. I know people who have been working in a maternity
situation for over 2 1/2 years and it is not fair that those people
either to have to wonder what is next.
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| Tue, May 8 2012 10:18pm EDT 15 |

meetwo
20 Posts
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Being a maternity leave "substitute" can also be a great
job-opening experience. I had a great "replacement" during my
maternity leave. She was hired immediately following my return
because she had a great experience and gained many in-the-field
recommendations. Sometimes this break is what someone needs to
prove what they can do while in the field. In general, it really
depends on the maternity replacement person's career needs and
expectations at the time. Could be good....could be bad!
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